MH 17 Corruptie

Sonja heeft een nieuwe reactie op je bericht "MH 17 Mystery 94" achtergelaten: 

Nee maar, wat een verrassing: Problemen met bewijzen MH17.

Het hoofd van het internationale MH17 onderzoeksteam was Vasyl Vovk. Hij was ook hoofd van de onderzoeksafdeling van de Oekraïense veiligheidsdienst SBU. Niemand stelde daar vragen over. Zie NOS 

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Vasily Vovk is de Oekraïense bron van de NOS en de Volkskrant. Wie is deze geheime dienst-chef precies? Welke rol speelt hij? Waarom wordt hij door de Nederlandse regering en de Nederlandse commerciële massamedia betrouwbaar geacht? Waar komt deze man vandaan? Met wie werkt hij samen? Wat is zijn belang? Door wie wordt hij gebruikt? Tot nu toe is bekend dat hij nauwe contacten onderhoudt met Oekraïense neo-nazi groeperingen en dat hij het bestaan van die groeperingen publiekelijk heeft ontkend. 

Major General Vasily Vovk told Ukrainians who oppose the Kiev junta's regime to 'shut their mouths' if they want to remain alive.

1. Background :

   
   1) Poroshenko fired Major-General Vasily Vovk on June 19.
   http://vesti-ukr.com/strana/104242-poroshenko-uvolil-nachalnika-gsu-sbu-vovka
   and
   http://mignews.com.ua/politics/inukraine/5992287.html

   2) SBU-chief Valentin Nalyvaychenko was fired the day before.

   3) On June 15 a whistleblower collected the WIFKA millions.

   4) On June 19 the international investigation team visited the chrash site again. They took soil samples .

   Maybe there are some correlations.
   •  isthatso // September 7, 2015 at 10:18 pm // Reply

     Liane, I’ve pondered the same thing but ultimately wasn’t able to connect the dots. The man is not credible, which I will explain shortly.

     Vovk first got my attention 12/19/14 when he said, “In the bodies of the passengers there are elements that are not elements of the aircraft. There are reasonable grounds to say that the elements of the missiles,” (Google translation). He added that they were investigating both ground-to-air and air-to-air missiles with Buk as the leading scenario.
     http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/accidents/v-telah-passazhirov-sbitogo-na-donbasse-boeing-777-naydeny-elementy-19122014115900

     In a 12/20/14 article he said there were 17 fragments likely from a missile.
     http://uatoday.tv/crime/mh17-victims-bodies-contain-missile-fragments-398590.html

     He also said 12/20/14 that the investigators would release a preliminary report by year end. I never saw such a report.
     http://sputniknews.com/europe/20141220/1016057165.html

     Then he said on 3/18/15 that investigators scanned 5.5 billion web pages and recognized 700 million of them held important information concerning the crash. By this time Vovk is no longer holding up the air-to-air scenario.
     http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh17-shot-out-sky-5359477
     http://en.censor.net.ua/news/329014/conclusions_on_the_downing_of_mh17_flight_will_be_published_by_all_countries_simultaneously_sbu

     The total number of days between Thursday, July 17th, 2014 and Wednesday, March 18th, 2015 is 244 days. To scan 5.5 billion web pages in that interval would be 22,540.984 per day or 939,208 per hour or 15,653 per minute or 261 per second. That’s if you’re working 24/7. If they worked 8 hour days 7 days per week then it would be 783 per second. What are the odds that even 7 web pages contained any information that was useful to the investigation? 700 million is not a credible figure.

     Then on 4/22/15 Vovk said, “We have no information available about any kind of radical far-right parties, organizations or groups.” “Ultra-radical groups and organizations are neither registered, nor identified.” So there you have it from an authoritative source. Right Sektor et al are just urban legends.
     https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/22/ukra-a22.html
     http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150421/1021167285.html

     On 6/19/15 came the news you mentioned that Poroshenko fired Vovk. The impression I get is that this firing was part of a general upper level house cleaning of the SBU that Poroshenko did. It was political fallout connected to a disastrous fire at the BRSM-Nafta oil depot near Kiev that killed 6 people and burned a vast amount of oil in a week. It was a big scandal, perhaps too big for Poroshenko to ignore.
     http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv-post-plus/case-against-top-prosecutor-closed-after-security-chiefs-dismissal-391523.html
     http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/273306.html

     On 7/17/15 Vovk denied that Ukraine had any ground weapons in the area capable of shooting down MH17. Were they relying on the Ukrainian air force to defend the skies over eastern Ukraine against Russian military aircraft?
     http://www.5.ua/Rozsliduvannia-katastrofy-MN17/MH17-bulo-zbyto-rosiiskym-Bukom-z-rosiiskym-ekipazhem–Vovk-87737.html?PageSpeed=noscript

     Vovk does not strike me as a sufficiently artful liar to collect the $47 million paid by Wifka. He strikes me as someone no longer useful who is lucky to remain alive. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of Vovk who is surely one of the more entertaining characters in the news about MH17.

     1.  Liane Theuer // September 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm // Reply

        isthatso, thanks for your reply.
        Vovk is without any doubt a very right-wing .
        But he also has deep insight into the investigation of MH17. Maybe he hates Poroshenko more than he wishes to hide the truth ?! And maybe he likes money. And maybe he want to find a save place in the world.
     2.  IsThatSo // September 10, 2015 at 1:23 am // Reply

        The only safe place for Vovk is to remain aligned with western interests. That is exactly what he was doing a month after being fired. He said Ukraine had no ground weapons in the area capable of shooting down MH17. He stays on message which is the safe thing to do regardless of his resentment of desire to cash in.

        He possibly knows a lot, and everything he knows is useless to anyone who wants to know the truth because of his history of outrageous lies. That is the problem, not his ideology. 

        I got it wrong above when I wrote about his claim about missile fragments being found in the bodies of the victims. He did not specify how many of the metal fragments were likely from a missile. His statement could be true, but his lack of credibility makes it useless. His knack for making transparently false statements is funny though.

        http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/dutch-experts-to-return-to-mh17-crash-site-for-recovery-of-debris-and-personal-belongings/

        http://stanvanhoucke.blogspot.nl/search?q=vovk