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I don’t spend any time on social media nor do I have any interest in the mainstream conservative movement, so I’d only been very slightly aware of Charlie Kirk prior to his sudden assassination on Wednesday, shot dead at the age of 31 by a sniper while speaking at the University of Utah Utah Valley University.
I’d vaguely known that Kirk was a young conservative activist who had dropped out of community college as a teenager about a dozen years earlier to found Turning Point USA, an activist organization intended to draw youthful Americans into his ideological camp, and heavily funded by mega-donors, it had grown large and successful over time. Those bare facts exhausted my total knowledge.
Given that I’d paid so little attention to him, I was initially shocked by the enormous outpouring of media coverage his killing generated, seemingly greater than might have been accorded many important American elected officials or even major world leaders under similar circumstances. All our top newspapers gave his story large, front-page headlines, and the discussion of Kirk’s assassination and its implications entirely blanketed much of the Internet.
I’d always regarded Kirk as a rather bland mainstream Trump conservative, hardly the sort of figure most likely to inspire lethal hatred. I wondered whether my impression had been mistaken so I sought to assess his views and positions, and get a better sense of why he had been targeted in that deadly attack.
Given his brutal slaying at such a young age, I was hardly surprised that a large fraction of the commentary amounted to hagiography, with even most of his erstwhile ideological foes mourning his death as a tragedy and casting aside any past criticism. Indeed, when Matthew Dowd, a prominent former Bush-Cheney Republican political consultant made some disparaging remarks about Kirk, he was immediately fired from his longstanding position at MSNBC, demonstrating the risks of straying from that widespread position.
Fortunately, I found some important exceptions to this pattern of unremitting praise.
I’d occasionally read pieces by Michael Tracey, a prominent moderate or liberal-leaning Internet writer and the day after Kirk’s death he published a harsh 1,400 word column providing a very different perspective on Kirk.
Many of Kirk’s supporters had described him as a political truth-teller, with President Donald Trump declaring that he had been “a martyr for truth.” But Tracey was scathing in his criticism, portraying him as essentially a political propagandist, someone who regularly shifted his positions to conform to those of Trump, his leading patron:
He was a government functionary. A mouthpiece. He trafficked in ludicrous propaganda on behalf of the Administration he loyally served. And was doing this basically 24/7, in the extremely recent past.
Perhaps most notoriously, after taking a personal phone call from Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk hopped on his podcast the next day and proclaimed, “Honestly, I’m done talking about Epstein for the time being. I’m gonna trust my friends in the administration. I’m gonna trust my friends in the government.” He then bizarrely tried to deny that he said this, or insist it had somehow been taken out of context — which it hadn’t. The context was that Trump got annoyed that a bunch of people had criticized him over Epstein at Kirk’s “Turning Point USA” conference, and then Trump called up Kirk, and then shortly thereafter, Kirk announced he was going to do the government’s bidding. That’s just what Kirk was, and the role he played in US political affairs — notwithstanding how people might now want to exalt him as a paragon of truth-telling virtue because of his untimely death.
His conduct was even more egregious in the run-up to Trump bombing Iran in June. During that episode, he pretty much served as a blatant government disinformation agent. Harsh as that might sound after he was brutally gunned down yesterday, it’s simply true. His mission was to demand uncritical faith in the US government, during a time of war — which is totally inexcusable for anyone who would consider themselves anything even remotely approximating a “journalist.” But that’s clearly not what Charlie Kirk considered himself. He instead considered himself a government media mouthpiece. On April 3, he said “A new Middle East war would be a catastrophic mistake.” Then by June 17, as drumbeats for the joint US-Israeli war against Iran were intensifying to full volume, Charlie changed his tune to mollify Trump, whom his whole identity was built around sycophantically serving. “It is possible to be an extreme isolationist,” Charlie Kirk warned his massive audience. “President Donald Trump is a man made for this moment, and we should trust him.” This was just pathetic. Turn off your critical thinking skills and place unquestioning “trust” in the US government to wage a war on false pretenses! What awesome, noble “truth-telling”!
Kirk then called for Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize, for the peace-bringing act of launching a new war in the Middle East. As I wrote at the time, “The shamelessness of these people has no bottom — it’s gotten to the point where you just have to marvel at the spectacle.” That was Charlie Kirk. He openly deceived his viewers and listeners, falsely insisting that Trump had been courageously pursuing “peace,” when in reality Trump was mobilizing for war in conjunction with Israel. At the time, I labeled Kirk a “depraved minion” for doing what he did, and I’m not about to retract that accusation just because he got killed yesterday. That would be absurd.
“We must trust Trump,” declared Charlie Kirk, the martyred truth-teller:
I stand by this completely, and there is zero reason to revise my assessment in light of Kirk’s death:
Charlie Kirk had been a cog in the propaganda machine of the Republican Party, declaring totally baselessly that a vote for Trump in the 2024 election was a vote to “bring peace to the Middle East.” And when the exact opposite happened, Charlie was imploring his followers to simply “pray” and uncritically trust the President. He was detestable.
And he wasn’t just some random commentator or podcaster. He was a full-time, extremely influential Republican Party apparatchik. His mega-donor funded outfit “Turning Point USA” ran “Get Out The Vote” operations for the Trump Campaign in the 2024 election. I’m not saying Charlie Kirk wasn’t entitled to engage in these political activities in a free society with lots of billionaire largesse available for ambitious operatives willing to serve as Republican Party Youth Galvanizer. I’m just saying I’m not obliged to fawningly express reverence for him now, simply by virtue of his sudden and hideous death.
Furthermore, I am very much entitled to challenge the hagiography and mythology that is so quickly congealing around him, such that he’s now being expeditiously put into the pantheon of martyred American saints — which is completely ridiculous. However, I’m fully aware that my limited efforts in this regard will have virtually zero effect. The absurd reverence-fest will continue unimpeded.
- Yes, the killing of Charlie Kirk was heinous. No, he was not a martyred truth-teller
Michael Tracey • Substack • September 11, 2025 • 1,400 Words
Even more hostile was the reaction of right-wing Internet provocateur Andrew Anglin, who maintained his angry, contrarian reputation by quickly publishing a series of posts ferociously denouncing the slain conservative activist. The lengthiest of these drew more than 500 comments on our website, with Anglin’s deeply emotional reaction probably explaining the obviously missing word in his title.
Sharply attacking Kirk from the right, Anglin eagerly dredged up quotes that demonstrated the victim’s notably liberal views on various hot-button issues. This hardly surprised me since it merely reflected the leftward shift of our conservative movement, whose right-wing MAGA partisans these days espouse many positions on social issues that would have marked them as extreme progressives as recently as the 1990s.
For example, Anglin noted that one of Kirk’s Tweets praised Trump’s strong support for global gay rights and condemned the media for failing to give the president sufficient credit on that score:
Anglin also highlighted another Kirk clip in which the conservative activist ridiculed the academic dogma that there are 47 different genders while strongly affirming his own support for ordinary transgenderism, saying that men had the right to declare themselves women and vice-versa.
This last example seems to perfectly exemplify the nature of our modern conservative movement. The promotion of totally insane ideas by the mainstream media and the academic community has provided self-proclaimed conservatives with considerable necessary cover, allowing them to win popular support by proudly advocating ideas that are only somewhat less insane in comparison.
As an example of Kirk’s personal support for transgenderism, Anglin noted that his organization heavily promoted an activist of that ilk called “Lady MAGA,” going much farther in that regard than most other pro-Trump conservatives. This certainly seemed to contradict early media reports suggesting that Kirk had been killed for his hostility to transgenderism.
According to Anglin, Kirk had also been a leading proponent of the notion that “America is an idea,” with our ideology and our constitutional principles defining what it means to be an American. Anglin located a 2019 clip in which Kirk took exactly this position, while simultaneously proclaiming that Israel should rightly remain “a blood and soil nation,” falling into a different category because of the holy connection to its land:
As with many conservatives, Kirk apparently had some strong libertarian roots, and during Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign he had emphasized that wide open America could easily accommodate almost unlimited numbers of hard-working, productive legal immigrants. Anglin actually claimed that Kirk had invented the meme of “stapling green cards to diplomas” and indeed in this clip the latter proposed that any foreigner who graduated from an American university should be issued a green card allowing permanent legal residency. Kirk even suggested that our country could reasonably absorb an astonishing fifty million new legal immigrants over the next ten years.
Anglin was obviously mining Kirk’s record to find those public statements most likely to infuriate the many right-wingers now mourning Kirk’s martyrdom, and I’m sure that clips could also be found in which Kirk sometimes took the opposite side of these same issues. For example, by 2023 he had apparently proposed halting all immigration.
But that’s the crucial point. Like so many other conservative activists, Kirk’s views on most ideological issues were hardly set in stone, and instead might easily change over time as Trump and other national leaders of his movement chose to move in different directions. This hardly indicated that Kirk was the sort of fanatic ideologue most likely to attract a deadly assassin.
All of this suggested that Tracey’s more cynical criticism of Kirk was probably much closer to the mark.
Meanwhile, the actual circumstances of Kirk’s killing raised all sorts of questions in my mind.
From media reports I soon discovered that Kirk had received many death threats over the years. Therefore, he had taken steps to ensure that he was extremely well protected against any such attack, surrounding himself with a professional security detail while also wearing body-armor. But none of that availed him against the sniper who killed him with a single, well-placed shot, hitting him in the neck from a distance of around 200 yards.
Over the years and the decades, considerable numbers of prominent Americans had been targeted by an assassin’s bullets but almost none of them had ever been killed in such a classic manner. Instead, a large majority of the victims were shot at close range with simple handguns, and the deranged attackers were often immediately apprehended at the scene.
Consider the case of last year’s killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Robert Thompson by someone angry over health insurance policies, with the corporate executive shot as he entered a midtown Manhattan hotel, totally unprotected against any such attack. Earlier this year, a Minnesota state representative and her husband had both been killed at home by an agitated gunman who merely knocked on their front-door.
Indeed, I would suspect that Kirk was better protected against any lethal attack than well over than 99% of all the American elected officials, senior corporate executives, billionaires, and Hollywood celebrities who constitute the most likely targets. Thus, his killing demonstrated how easily almost any of our public figures could be killed by a determined attacker. Many such influential individuals may certainly take this lesson to heart, perhaps leading them to support severe crackdowns on our civil liberties in order to reduce their personal risks.
Even last year’s two unsuccessful assassination attacks against Trump during his presidential campaign seemed far less professional than Kirk’s killing. In each case, the carelessness and incompetence of the attacker was balanced out by the severe security lapses of Trump’s Secret Service team.
A sniper firing at long range seems the most classic sort of professional political assassination but the last such examples that come to my mind were the 1960s killings of JFK and MLK, and only the former was captured for posterity on the famous Zapruder film. Just as with the Kirk assassination, the killing of Kennedy in Dallas also involved a heavily-guarded public figure slain by a sniper who initially escaped, with the attack captured on video, but in that earlier case the film was only released many years later, greatly diminishing the emotional impact of the crime. So in many regards, the closest historical parallel to Kirk’s assassination was that of JFK sixty-two years earlier.
When was the last time that an American public figure has been successfully assassinated while wearing body-armor and surrounded by a security detail? It’s been a staple of countless Hollywood films, but I’m not sure it’s ever previously happened in real life. Combine that with the single shot fired and Kirk’s killing might rank as the most professional political assassination in modern American history. That’s a pretty impressive achievement for an agitated 22-year-old pro-tranny activist whose grandmother claims may have never previously fired a gun.
Unfortunately, far darker parallels between the Kennedy and Kirk assassinations almost immediately came to my mind once I’d heard of the latter’s death.
As I’d mentioned, for the last dozen years I’d paid almost no attention to Kirk or his political activities, but that had begun to change over the last couple of months. After Trump reversed himself on the release of the Jeffrey Epstein documents, a huge political firestorm had erupted, with many erstwhile Trump supporters expressing a sense of bitter betrayal. This led me to publish a long article about the controversy and the broader issue of blackmail in American politics.
Towards the beginning of my discussion, I’d noted that Tucker Carlson had been invited to speak at the national convention of Kirk’s organization. Carlson had used that opportunity to very courageously inform all those thousands of young conservative activists that almost everyone in DC assumed that Epstein had been working for the Israeli Mossad, providing that foreign spy organization with the blackmail evidence it used to maintain control of our own elected officials.
For generations, the American conservative movement has been notoriously pro-Israel, so I was greatly surprised that the huge audience of young conservatives overcame their lifelong indoctrination, strongly supporting Carlson’s bold statements and even giving him wild cheers.
Former FoxNews host Tucker Carlson is probably the biggest figure in today’s fragmented media landscape and a crucial supporter of Donald Trump. But he and many others like him have strongly denounced the administration’s reversal on the release of the Epstein files.
The largest youthful pro-Trump organization is called Turning Point USA, and Carlson happened to give a speech to the huge audience at their annual convention a few days after Trump’s decision. He dramatically declared that that not a single person he knew in DC doubted that Epstein had been running a blackmail operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad, and despite that controversial statement his speech drew widespread cheers. This suggests that his remarks—and the positive reaction they attracted—may themselves mark “a turning point” in what had been decades of uniformly pro-Israel sentiments among American conservatives. So ideas once marginalized or considered entirely forbidden may now apparently be freely discussed, sometimes even attracting widespread support, and this may be the most important lasting legacy of the current political firestorm over the Epstein files.
Indeed, given Carlson’s words only the most willfully blind could fail to connect such Mossad operations with the unwavering levels of support that Israel has long enjoyed from our members of Congress. Over the last couple of years, nearly the entire rest of the world has come to regard Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as one of modern history’s worst war-criminals, now under indictment by the International Court of Justice for his horrific ongoing massacre of Gaza’s helpless civilians. But when he has visited Congress, the trained barking seals of that political body have provided him endless standing ovations. Obviously the money and media deployed by the Israel Lobby explain most of this behavior, but the powerful role of blackmail has almost certainly supplemented those factors.
The notion that many of our own elected officials are being ruthlessly blackmailed by a foreign power must surely outrage most patriotic Americans, and the increasing circulation of these ideas may eventually have important consequences. Just a few days after Carlson’s remarkable speech, Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the fiercest MAGA partisans in Congress, surprisingly joined with Democrats Reps. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, two of her most leftwing colleagues, in voting to cut U.S. funding for Israel. This resolution only attracted a handful of supporters, but small cracks in a dam sometimes presage much larger breaks.
- American Pravda: Jeffrey Epstein, the Franklin Scandal, Pedophilia, and Political Blackmail
Ron Unz • The Unz Review • July 28, 2025 • 12,300 Words
In the weeks after Carlson’s remarkably candid speech and the reaction it drew, I’d come across a few scattered indications that Kirk was becoming far more publicly critical of Israel, perhaps even starting to follow the political trajectory of Candace Owens, who had originally come from a very similar ideological background.
Although I hadn’t been aware of it at the time, within hours of Kirk’s assassination, one of his past video clips sharply condemning the anti-white activism of Jewish groups in America went viral on the Internet, with this single Tweet viewed nearly six million times:
Given Kirk’s enormous popularity among conservative youth, the consequences of such a shift might have been enormous so Kirk’s sudden, very professional assassination raised dark suspicions in my mind.
Earlier this year I’d published an article summarizing Israel’s long history of high-profile political assassinations, a record unmatched in all of world history, and this particular incident certainly fit very well into that pattern.
- Zionist Israel as the Assassination Nation
Ron Unz • The Unz Review • June 23, 2025 • 11,800 Words
Three months earlier I’d summarized the strong, even overwhelming evidence that Israel had played a central role in the deaths of both President Kennedy and his younger brother Robert, and the parallels with Kirk’s killing seemed quite apparent.
- How Israel Killed the Kennedys
Ron Unz • The Unz Review • March 24, 2025 • 11,500 Words
Therefore, a few hours after hearing of Kirk’s death, I very gingerly raised these possibilities with someone well situated in conservative circles who personally knew Kirk, and was shocked by his response. He unequivocally told me that everyone in Kirk’s circle, even including important Trump Administration officials, suspected that Israel had probably killed the young conservative leader. While such beliefs might not necessarily be correct, I was astonished that they were apparently so widespread without even a hint of those notions reported anywhere in the mainstream or conservative media.
But two days later, this media silence was dramatically broken as the story I’d been privately told by a conservative insider was fully confirmed by a revelatory articlepublished in the Grayzone.
I’d strongly urge that everyone read the entire 2,100 word piece by editors Max Blumenthal and Anya Parampil. But the information reported by those two investigative journalists seems so explosively important that I feel compelled to quote it at very considerable length:
Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.
In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a “bully,” the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.
According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. “Charlie was the only person who did that,” they said, recalling how Trump “barked at him” in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts.
By the following month, Kirk had become the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu – figures he described in an interview as Jewish “leaders” and “stakeholders.”
“He was afraid of them,” the source emphasized.
At TPUSA, the rift with Israel widens
Kirk was 18 years old when he launched TPUSA in 2012. From its inception, his career was propelled by Zionist donors, who showered his young organization with money through neoconservative outfits like the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He repaid his wealthy backers over the years by unleashing a relentless firehose of anti-Palestinian and Islamophobic diatribes, accepting propaganda trips to Israel, and sternly shutting down nationalist forces challenging his support for Israel during TPUSA events. In the Trump era, few American gentiles had proved more valuable to the self-proclaimed Jewish state than Charlie Kirk.
But as Israel’s genocidal assault on the besieged Gaza Strip drove an unprecedented backlash within grassroots right-wing circles, where only 24% of younger Republicans now sympathize with Israel over the Palestinians, Kirk began to shift. At times, he toed the Israeli line, spreading disinformation about babies beheaded by Hamas on October 7, and denying the famine imposed on the population of Gaza. Yet he simultaneously ceded to his base, wondering aloud if Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset, questioning whether the Israeli government allowed the October 7 attacks to proceed in order to advance long-term political goals, and parroting narratives familiar to his most vociferous critic on the right, streamer Nick Fuentes.
This July, at his TPUSA Student Action Summit, Kirk provided a forum for the right-wing grassroots to vent its fury about Israel’s political hammerlock on the Trump administration. There, speakers from former Fox News stalwarts Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly, to the anti-Zionist Jewish comedian Dave Smith, denounced Israel’s blood-soaked assault on the besieged Gaza Strip, branded Jeffrey Epstein as an Israeli intelligence asset, and openly taunted Zionist billionaires like Bill Ackman for “getting away with scams” despite having “no actual skills.”
Following the confab, Kirk was bombarded with infuriated text messages and phone calls from Netanyahu’s wealthy allies in the US, including many who had funded TPUSA. According to his longtime friend, the Zionist donors treated Kirk with outright contempt, essentially ordering him to fall back into line.
“He was being told what you’re not allowed to do, and it was driving him crazy,” Kirk’s friend recalled. The conservative youth leader was not only alienated by the hostile nature of the interactions, but “frightened” by the backlash.
The friend’s account dovetails with those of multiple right-wing commentators with access to Kirk.
“I think, in the end, Charlie was going through a spiritual transformation,” Candace Owens, a conservative influencer who shifted decisively against Israel after October 7, reflected after her friend’s killing. “I know it, he was going through a lot. There was a lot of pressure, and it’s hard for me to watch the people who were pressuring him just say the things that they’re saying.”
She continued: “They wanted him to lose everything for changing or even slightly modifying an opinion. It’s very hurtful to me.”
Kirk appeared visibly outraged during an August 6 interview with conservative host Megyn Kelly, as he discussed the menacing messages he was receiving from pro-Israel bigwigs.
“It’s all of the sudden: ‘oh, Charlie: he’s no longer with us.’ Wait a second—what does ‘with us’ mean, exactly? I’m an American, okay? I represent this country,” he explained, before addressing the powerful Zionist interests harassing him.
“The more that you guys privately and publicly call our character into question—which is not isolated, it would be one thing if it were just one text, or two texts; it is dozens of texts—then we start to say, ‘whoa, hold the boat here,’” Kirk continued. “To be fair, some really good Jewish friends say, ‘that’s not all of us’… But these are leaders here. These are stakeholders.”
He went on to complain to Kelly, “I have less ability… to criticize the Israeli government than actual Israelis do. And that’s really, really weird.”
In one of his final interviews, conducted with Israel’s premier influencer in the United States, Ben Shapiro, Kirk once again tried to raise the issue of censorship of Israel critics.
“A friend said to me, interestingly: ‘Charlie, okay, we’ve pushed back against the media on COVID, on lockdowns, on Ukraine, on the border,’” Kirk told Shapiro on September 9. “Maybe we should also ask the question: is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel? Just a question!”
According to Kirk’s longtime friend, Kirk’s resentment of Netanyahu and the Israel lobby was spreading within Trump’s inner circle. In fact, they said, the president himself was terrified of Netanyahu’s wrath, and feared the consequences of defying him.
During the past year, the Trump insider was told by contacts in the White House that the Secret Service had caught Israeli government personnel placing electronic devices on its emergency response vehicles on two separate occasions.
While The Grayzone was unable to confirm the story with the Secret Service or White House, such an incident would not have been unprecedented. Indeed, according to a report in Politico citing three former senior US officials, a cellphone spying device was placed by Israeli agents “near the White House and other sensitive locations around Washington” toward the end of Trump’s first term in 2019.
Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson recounted a similar incident in his memoir, writing that his security team found a listening device in his bathroom soon after Netanyahu used his personal toilet.
The Israel-did-it theory
Kirk was killed this September 10 with a single shot fired by a sniper apparently positioned on a rooftop 200 meters away. He was shot while seated before a crowd of thousands at Utah State University in Orem, Utah on the first leg of his American Comeback Tour. The scene of Kirk collapsing from the impact of a gunshot to his neck just as he began answering a question about transgender mass shooters was perhaps the most shockingly vivid spectacle of assassination – and certainly the most viral – in human history.
There is currently no evidence of an Israeli government role in Kirk’s assassination. However, that has not stopped thousands of social media users from speculating that the pro-Trump operative’s shifting views on the issue contributed in some way to his death. By the time of publication, over 100,000 Twitter/X users have liked a September 11 post by libertarian influencer Ian Carroll declaring about Kirk, “He was their friend. He basically dedicated his life to them. And they murdered him in front of his family. Israel just shot themselves.”
Many advancing the unsubstantiated theory have pointed to a Twitter/X post by Harrison Smith, a personality at the pro-Trump Infowars network, stating on August 13 – almost a month before Kirk’s assassination – that he was told by “someone close to Charlie Kirk that Kirk thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against Israel.”
The frenzied speculation has set off shockwaves in Tel Aviv, where Netanyahu was compelled to explicitly deny that his government killed Kirk during a September 11 interview with NewsMax.
Netanyahu and his allies bury the Kirk crisis as “big tent” collapses
That appearance was just one of several interviews and statements the Prime Minister dedicated to Kirk in the wake of his killing in an effort to frame the late conservative leader’s legacy in a uniformly pro-Israel light. The major public relations push has occurred while Netanyahu wages a military campaign on seven fronts, punctuated by a regional assassination spree that most recently reached into the heart of Qatar, a US ally.
Netanyahu first tweeted prayers for Kirk at 3:02 PM in the afternoon on September 10, minutes after news of the shooting broke. He has since authored three additional posts about Kirk, even breaking away from the Israeli war cabinet to spend the afternoon of September 11 memorializing the conservative leader on Fox News.
During that interview, Netanyahu did his best to insinuate that Israel’s enemies were responsible for murdering Kirk, despite the fact no suspect was named or in custody at the time:
“The radical Islamists and their union with the ultra-progressives—they often speak about ‘human rights,’ they speak about ‘free speech’—but they use violence to try to take down their enemies,” the Prime Minister told Harris Faulkner.
In a September 10 Twitter/X post eulogizing the conservative leader, the Israeli Prime Minister described a recent phone conversation with Kirk.
“I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel,” Netanyahu declared. “Sadly, that visit will not take place.”
Left unmentioned was whether Kirk declined the invitation—just as he did with the Prime Minister’s offer to reload TPUSA’s coffers with donations from his coterie of wealthy American Jewish cutouts.
At the time of publication, a 22-year-old resident of Utah has been taken into custody after supposedly confessing to killing Kirk. The public may soon learn the true motives of the alleged assassin. Perhaps they will fuel the narrative which Trump and his allies advanced in the immediate wake of the shooting – that a leftist radical was responsible, and that a wave of draconian repression must follow.
But after the shooter’s initial escape and a series of federal law enforcement mishaps, a large sector of Americans will likely never believe the official story. Nor will they ever know where Kirk’s turning point on Israel would have taken the conservative movement.
Four days before the assassination, frustration among pro-Israel commentators bubbled over in public during an Fox News interviewin which Ben Shapiro launched a chilling attack on Kirk without naming him.
“The problem with a ‘big tent’ is that you may end up with many clowns inside,” Shapiro told Fox host and fellow Zionist gatekeeper Mark Levin in an apparent critique of TPUSA.
“Just because you’re saying somebody votes Republican—that doesn’t mean that they ought to be the preacher at the front of the church, they’re not the person that ought to be leading the movement, if they are spending all day criticizing the President of the United States as ‘covering up a Mossad rape ring’ or ‘being a tool of the Israelis for hitting an Iranian nuclear facility.’”
When Kirk took his usual place at the “front of the church” four days later, he was cut down by a sniper’s bullet.
Within 24 hours of Kirk’s death, Shapiro announced that he would be launching his own campus speaking tour, vowing: “We’re gonna pick up that blood stained microphone where Charlie left it.”
- Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals
Max Blumenthal and Anya Parampil • The Grayzone • September 12, 2025 • 2,100 Words
For those who prefer a different medium, an excellent video Tweeted out by Propaganda & Co. covers much of this same material, and has already attracted more than a million views after just one day.
The authorities have announced that the alleged assassin has now been caught, and it’s very possible that the official story will turn out to be entirely correct.
Nonetheless, it seems clear that Kirk had increasingly moved into sharp conflict with Israel and therefore apparently feared for his life at the hands of a country whose record of political assassinations is unrivaled across all of human history. Moreover, immediately after Kirk’s violent death, his place was taken by Ben Shapiro, a Jewish Zionist known to be one of America’s fiercest public supporters for Israel, someone who had sharply attacked Kirk on that very issue just four days before the latter’s death.
These obviously seem like very dangerous and suspicious circumstances, but perhaps Kirk was instead killed by a young activist angered over his insufficiently strong support for transgenderism. Odd coincidences do sometimes happen.
However, there do seem to be quite a number of strange elements in the official narrative of the assassination as provided by the police authorities and reported in the media. For example, we were immediately told that after the sniper fled, he abandoned his rifle on a wooded footpath and police discovered that his unexpended shells were inscribed with various hostile statements. But when photos were released of the alleged gunman making his way off the rooftop, there was no sign that he was carrying any such rifle.
These and other anomalies have begun circulating around the Internet, and although they may soon be explained away or otherwise debunked, I think we should keep an open mind on what really happened until any such loose ends are fully resolved. Many of these are summarized in a rather lengthy video Tweeted out by Jackson Hinkle.
Indeed, in the last twenty-four hours, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox announced that the suspect arrested in the Kirk assassination has pleaded not guilty and is refusing to cooperate with investigators.
Meanwhile, some of the supposed evidence against the suspect has now been sharply called into question in another video released by Propaganda & Co.
Related Reading:
- Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu funding offer, was ‘frightened’ by pro-Israel forces before death, friend reveals by Max Blumenthal and Anya Parampil
- American Pravda: Jeffrey Epstein, the Franklin Scandal, Pedophilia, and Political Blackmail
- Zionist Israel as the Assassination Nation
- How Israel Killed the Kennedys
- Yes, the killing of Charlie Kirk was heinous. No, he was not a martyred truth-teller by Michael Tracey
- President Donald Trump as Founding Father of the Newer World Order
- History as Farce with Donald Trump's Tariff Policies
- Marked for Death by a Reckless America?
- American Pravda: Jeffrey Epstein, the Franklin Scandal, Pedophilia, and Political Blackmail
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I think Spencer Quinn said it best. Let’s exploit Kirk’s name as the right wings MLK and invoke his memory in the name of nationalist/populist limited government cause. Kirk was far from perfect, but it’s fair game
Sad the way it happened. But, his positions were pro-Israel shite.
Error in first paragraph. Kirk was shot dead at Utah Valley University in Orem, UT.
His killer fits the classic patsy profile. All we saw is him running across a roof with a case and taking a long jump downward that probably caused injury, so not a planned exit. There is no footage of him shooting or that he ever trained to shoot or any reason to shoot. The killer team just lured him to the roof, then the shot rang out and he ran home. Next day he is proclaimed the killer with no hard evidence presented.
And so say we all!
As usual, a thoughtful commentary from Unz. Watch and see who takes over the helm of TPUSA. Supposedly it will be über-Zionist Ben Shapiro. If so, TPUSA’s moneybags will be happy regardless of whether it was their Capo in Israel who ordered Kirk liquidated or a MK-Ultra Tranny in Mormonland who was miffed over something about what Kirk was saying about Tranny killers just before he was capped. As I mentioned over at Anglin’s, the theory that Kirk had rejected Zionist plata and was thus paid off in plomba is at least as plausible as anything put forth by police, FBI, et al.
It has to be “Israel.” Charlie Kirk has recently exposed the Jews’ complete control over the U.S. political and media establishments. Jews are the world’s leading source of international terrorism, including the ongoing genocide planned for 6 million Palestinians with the full complicity of the U.S. in war crimes. The Jews are the world’s most vicious and secret assassins. They killed the Kennedy brothers, Martin Luther King, and many others, including the 9/11 “Twin Towers” attack where 3000 Americans were killed. With the complicity of the Jewish media, they were able to cover up their crimes.
The alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, has already denied killing Kirk and is pleading not guilty. His plea was depicted as “not cooperating with authorities.” Why is the U.S. arresting him when the U.S. has done nothing to stop the ongoing killings of unarmed Palestinian women and children (200,000 plus innocent lives) by Jews in Gaza, which could be done with a simple phone call to war criminal Netanyahu or to cut off all arms shipments for the Jews?
He was turning on Israel. Kirk was also very close friends with Candace Owens.
There is a reason the Zionists freak out at the slightest criticism of Israel. It’s because the Story of Israel is a stack of lies. Digging into the truth about any one part will bring down the whole rickety edifice as suddenly as Building 7 on 9/11.
Many have seen the video of Charlie Kirk and Megyn Kelly discussing how the hard-core Zionists go nuts over the least little questioning of Israel. It sure looks like a 12 Step meeting on breaking their addiction to Zionism.
Even the Evangelicals will be shocked awake by the truth of Israel’s 9/11 scam. They will be stunned again at finding Christian Zionism is just another scam.
Israel has declared emphatically that it will never negotiate, not about a 2-state solution, not about peace with Iran. Its clear, committed program is to subdue others by force. Therefore it can only be dealt with by force.
So all “Zionists of convenience” would be wise to evacuate the Zionist edifice before it implodes. Coming soon to a world near you.
Very good investigation. Max Blumenthal’s energy and courage are priceless.
Charlie Kirk was killed by a homosexual who was in a relationship with another man – who thought he was a woman.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
Seems like the taboo that protects Israel is in the process of shattering spectacularly. When the right wing turns on Israel, they will be backed in to a corner. I daresay you’ve seen this coming for years Ron?
Every week that passes, it feels like we are reliving Europe in the 1930s. The worst is yet to come, but it is certainly rushing towards us.
If people would check Charlie Kirks top 50 pro-Israel and zionism views and compare them to his top 50 most negative or critical views of Israel, people would immediately see that he was a very well-funded, full-blown ardent zionist, who worshipped Israel and zionism, who always said how Israel is the beacon and only beacon of democracy in the middle-easst, how Israel is the most moral, how Israel has the right to “defend itself”, how the land belongs to jews etc. He even criticized others about not letting people be even a bit pro-Israel/zionism without getting criticized for it.
I think it might have been Douglas Macgregor who suspected that it might have been possible that some elite jews might have got nervous of Kirk taking all of their money and then lately starting to change his opinions about Israel and this might have led to his assassination.
Wha tha F**K, man?
I could not finish reading this, seeing Unz shit on a person murdered by another sicko tranny with millions of his liberals friends celebrating it, gods can we just cancel this jew?
Another “lone nut” assassin! Why change the script when it has been working for centuries! Brought to you by the Empire of Lies! The good ‘ol jUSA!
Being from the Antipodes myself I’d never heard of Charlie until the morning news had Trump’s theatrical announcement and the shooting itself was theatre. After looking into it a bit I even wondered if it was Trump arranging his next distraction from the Epstein issue, even if only a Henry II who will rid me of this archbishop rhetorical question or Putin cronies anticipating the Boss’s orders. Charlie’s widow’s bizarre theatre too. Then there were others glad to see Charlie dead, including Mossad and the US security agencies which had turned a blind eye towards Epstein’s operation. Weird.
No doubt that he had turned on his backers and pissed them off, so Israel and organized jewry had a motive.
However, as yet there is not any evidence that implicates the Mossad.
I’m normally the first to claim, “It’s the jews, stupid.” Because usually is IS the jews!
Grok said that Robinson could have spear chucked the rifle into the woods to pick it up later or have his tranny BF pick it up for him. He might have tossed it right after the shot and before the camera picks him up on the roof.
Robinson looks like a quiet tranny fucking weirdo. He told his family that he didn’t like Kirk and that Kirk was hateful.
Can’t see how he can plead not guilty when they have so much on him.
It certainly LOOKS like a Mossad hit, and Netanyahu getting out ahead of the accusations is dark comedy.
Asking who benefits and the answer is obvious.
I predict that Robinson is going to get the death penalty, but there will always be lingering suspicion that Israel did it.
Ron notice the lack of comments……Is everyone in fear of being targeted ?
‘Why is the Charlie Kirk assassination a big deal?’
I will tell you exactly why he is NOW a big deal… It Transends the man himself.
What makes him a big deal NOW is the reaction across the whole world to a brutal killing. The best part and my point is right here.
I saw a X video post of a young lady saying that she doesn’t know anything about God or Jesus… but because of what has happened, she picked up her husband’s bible and is reading it! That’s Friggin Awesome! https://www.sgtreport.com/2025/09/this-is-why-charlie-kirk-still-won/
England is basically trying to cancel traditional English society, even jailing their own citizens for displaying English flags… I saw a video with tens of thousands marching to honor Kirk, and there were British flags, American flags, Maga hats and Crosses!!
I saw a video of a black “Influencer” Basically saying the DEMONRAT party is cooked for the next 20 years! Black, White, Spanish. Armenian, EVERYBODY is turning away from them! That’s Awesome!
If you have time for a Long but excellent rant against the Demonrats check this one:
https://www.sgtreport.com/2025/09/my-liberal-friends-are-completely-oblivious-about-how-radicalizing-the-last-week-has-been-for-tens-of-millions-of-normal-americans-zero-clue/
After watching the whole world plunging down into darkness for 50 YEARS I am finally privileged to see the forces of LIGHT fighting back! And the best part is that they are NOT fighting with guns and bombs… they are fighting with candles and prayers and songs! It’s the most awesome PARADIGM SHIFT i have ever seen, and i am soooo thankful that i have lived long enough to witness it.
Not to say that this is going to “Save the world”, The world is still gonna burn in Armageddon’s fires…
But many that might have been damned are now going to be saved instead.
Is that not a BIG DEAL?
Ron seems jealous of Charlie. Sad. Most who followed Kirk closely understand exactly why the reaction–on both sides–has been what it is. And that is despite whatever smaller disagreements supporters have had with some of his positions, which were changing rapidly in positive directions recently, btw, which many claim prompted the setup of the assassination.
Given all the evidence presented here and the focus of the Trump/Netanyahu administration to turn around youth sentiment with all of the college crackdowns I believe MOSSAD is the most likely underlying culprit and at the very least we can’t be ruled out immediately given their history, capabilities, and motive.
The more troubling aspect is the reaction we’ve seen. A few months ago I doubt anyone on Twitter would have objected to calling Charlie Kirk an Israel shill. Now he’s been canonized as some sort of free speech saint? For years he has acted as a gate keeper attempting to define the bounds of acceptable push back on the foreign control of the United States and now he’s above reproach. It appears as though he was getting red pilled I’ve seen argued, you don’t hear these arguments about who controls our government and see what’s happening in Gaza for years and just suddenly start to change your mind. I assume he was a willing participant, affording him fame and wealth in exchange for pushing a false narrative and suppressing those trying to expose the truth. He has been pulled right the same way someone like Tucker Carlson has, largely because of the freedom afforded by the Twitter changes and the popularity of Nick Fuentes talking points especially among the youth. If he didn’t become more “red pilled” he’d fade off into irrelevancy and lose any type of influence and the wealth that accompanies. So while it’s sad what happened to him and you can feel bad for his family and the state of the country, especially if this was done by a foreign power on our soil, I don’t think making him out to be something he wasn’t is particularly helpful.
Maybe this is all due to the feelings response to this event though. On the day before the anniversary of September 11th, one of the most wide spread examples we have of a false flag used to convert people’s emotions into agenda items, we have the supposed “red pilled” right calling for banishment from society those so brazen to make jokes or celebrate the death of Kirk, the same treatment they have complained about for years. It seems we’ve come to the point where the “America First” right has recognized that taking the morale high ground and standing on principles has gotten them nowhere and has adopted the lefts tactics of lying, cheating, and stealing to get whatever they want, hypocrisy be damned. Now we have people that supposedly understand the pretense of September 11th was used for things like the Iraq war and Patriot Act, that still hurt us to this day, calling for what they have been fighting against for the last year in an AI surveillance state and more government control. This is for a government they talk about being completely under foreign control and have seen countless examples in just this administration of turning things they are asking for against them such as the deportations of VISA holders for anti Israel sentiment of even support of Gaza.
Even if you believe the official narrative we already effectively live under a super surveillance police state that was completely unable to find a 22 year old for days who supposedly had a phone on him and made a call on his walk back from his assassination but I’m sure giving up our guns and even more of our privacy will prevent another murder from ever taking place.
That’s been the most surprising and disappointing part of all of this to me, it seems even with a more widespread knowledge of a truer version of history, knowing people were manipulated by feelings to agree to things that hurt the country and themselves even to this day, everyone seems unwilling or unable to apply those lessons and immediately begs the government to take away more of their rights while unquestioningly slurping up whatever is useful to their false left/right dichotomy narrative from the main stream media as who is to blame.
The only salient feature of Kirk to my mind was his willingness to openly debate youth in often hostile settings.
The ability to hold an open meeting and challenge ideas through reasoned debate is something Western societies have lost. I recall being addressed by speakers who were open to being challenged and I think it is what real education is about.
Kirk did what politicians are supposed to do
Mr. Unz:
You state incorrectly at the end of ¶1 that Kirk was shot at the University of Utah. It was actually “Utah Valley University”.
(I had never heard of it, either). Errare humanum est.
Almost six million you say?
The incident shows the complexity of the World.There is a high proportion of the World’s population holding certain views which some individuals ‘ Groups, find disgusting. If they were to meet with the same fate,the work of the “Depopulation Agents” will be made easier.
Mutual assassination is not necessarily a bad thing. It indicates that a lot of conflicts should erupt.
And after destruction comes rebirth.
From our Chinese perspective, Krik and other propagandist fools are essentially no different. They like to waste time on meaningless and rude debates.
We just hope there are more and more of these idiots.
Activist ?
That means some sort of organization. Which organization?
Then, was anybody within that organization aware of the shooter intention?
Did he, himself, come up with the intent or he was encouraged? By whom? How?
Was anybody within that organization helping the shooter in his efforts? How?
Simple questions in any organized society with police force.
Not simple in the Clown World with the fraud in the White House, of course.
Oh, BTW, look at the another, unorganized, “lone wolf” activity in the same state:
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/15/utah-arrest-explosive-device-fox-13-media-vehicle
Adeeb Nasir, 58, and Adil Justice Ahmed Nasir, 31.
Coincidence, naturally.
Or Mossad in God mode.
Once redpilled, they‘ll never go back
Here is an alternative version of events that may have happened. This differs a bit from the one I first submitted. I had written both and it was a tough decision as to which to go with.
If this were a conspiracy which involved more than one person then we might see something like the following:
And Iryna Zarutska as the right wing’s Rosa Parks?
I think it is safe to say, given Kirk’s over a decade-long subservience to the zionist cause that the “holy state” doesn’t shoot from the hip quite that fast. Kirk was, after all a valuable asset (!) who happened to disagree with the POTUZ (potentate of the united zionist cause) for a couple of weeks.
Most of us here are on the same page regarding Israel.
But are we really equating John Fitzgerald Kennedy with an influencer? The American president could have easily ended the young state’s imperial ambitions by repatriating Palestinians while prying the atomic weapon from Ben-Gurion’s claws.
Are we really implying the zionists are now handing out Stalinesque kill-orders willy nilly for what amounts to slight ideological disagreement?
Israel is guilty of killing Charlie Kirk until it proves its innocence. The usual standard of
“innocent until proven guilty” cannot be applied to a criminal mob masquerading as a
nation, and openly boasting about assassination as Government policy.
After the Zionists murdered a 100 thousand innocent civilians in Palestine, would they
have any reservations about sniping a popular political activist who was signaling
that he was about to betray them? The tale of the “lone Mormon leftist with transgender
tendencies,” is wearing thin already.
A room in the Epstein Rehab Center is being refurbished for Mr. Robinson.
I would not believe a shred, not one jot, of any Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory except for the presence of Ben Shapiro.
Before Charley’s demise, I would have put him and Ben on about the same level; not at all sure that might be where they end up anyway. Neither man was/is gifted or even interesting. But money buys that sort of thing in collapsing republics. And this one has been collapsing for at least a couple of centuries.
In an alternative universe, Charley had Ben knocked off first. Quick: What difference would it make?
2 more cents:
Perhaps Hamas did it, since Charlie often called for their Jenocide on behalf of his J-paymasters.
Of course, that might be what his J-paymasters want you to think.
No matter. No supposed “Christian” who supports a Jenocide of those who are not irredeemable, but who generally respect Christ, will end up at his preferred destination.
Or who doesn’t name sodomy as a sin (one that can be repented of, but still a sin nonetheless).
Or who pushed any of the other non-Christ-like manipulative narratives that he pushed for politicians and warmongers, like bombing Iran, while he himself got rich from their wallets.
Choices have consequences after all, and the Word of God will be Charlie’s final judge.
For we are not judged by what we do well, because doing well is expected by God, and certainly no one will be earning their way into Heaven by their own righteousness. But we are judged by the evil we refused to give up (“sin no more”), because that shows one’s bad-heartedness… and that’s the thing that doesn’t bode well for Charlie Kirk.
Shahid Bolsen on the Charlie Kirk Assassination
“I don’t mourn and I don’t celebrate.”
the short clip –
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1967298205747671141
the full video –
Video Link
That Jewish gift of prophecy again:
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I understand you do not like to monitor social media,but you better start because that is the battlefield on which we are deployed. There are two distinct Zionist wings and they hate each other.
Trad Left- Soros Oligarchs like Israeli-Jewish billionaire Kolomoysky. and their cats paw ANTIFA, their culture war LGBTQ allies, academia on the left, trad media mostly. Political left like Clinton.
Right- dominated by proud Christian Zionists, Bannon ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiAtkO4VI-g
Video Link) Rubio, Huckabee, Lindsey Graham, Bongino (here he is declaring Israel dearest to his heart https://twitter.com/davincentjames/status/1894272007992480177) most but not all of the deep state, now FBI, CIA, also Mossad, the settler lunatics, and their Israeli affiliates, Mossad itself, Netanyahu. TPUSA, and DJT himself . Some wings of this faction are prone to assassination and violence to a great degree.
Kirk and TPUSA was in the pro Israel right wing but recently shown signs of going wobbly over Gaza. Other youth movements in the world were Catholic and pro Palestinian. The Zionists behind TPUSA were angry and afraid of a impending betrayal turning their TPUSA that they grew and funded against Israel. Executive action and leadership swap by their usual means, assassination, would be appealed to.
It would be good to know more about Matt Robinson. Supposedly, the father turned the son in. At first glance, that seems like an open-and-shut argument that Tyler Robinson really is guilty. But maybe there’s something more involved.
This is the going wobbly kind of thing in recent days that got Charlie killed.
https://twitter.com/LetsGoBrando45/status/1967435635494735898
I made this exact point in other posts here.
I just knew you would find a way to twist in a completely bogus conspiracy theory or two! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
As I again have previously posted elsewhere on TUR, if Israel wanted to off Kirk, they wouldn’t do it with a wayward Mormon, homosexual, tranny loving, immature 22 year old white kid!
Speaking of which, if a Jew had killed Kirk, this blog and the world would be up in arms! But a Mormon? Not very much being said on that score…
I am now 100% confident that Israel ended the life of Kirk. But, this is nothing more than an intellectual curiosity for me, something for me to intellectually ponder while waiting to die for all eternity. In addition to being 100% confident about the above, I am also 100% confident that life will continue as usual among American Gentiles. Their IQs have dropped too much now to really be able to understand anything beyond what Fox News and Donald Trump tells them. And, the Gentiles’ IQs just keep on dropping and dropping and dropping. They will all just think that a Democrat Transsexual killed Kirk, wait to hear about the death penalty carried out against him, and just continue life as usual, doing their sports and dancing and music and eating and drinking and what-have-you.
Maybe I should buy a good telescope, look out towards the stars. Nothing of interest on Earth.
The twists and turns leading to Kirk’s death run almost perfectly parallel to the twists and turns of countless US administrstions in their endless wars. It’s tempting to speculate that the very foundations of the country are replete with twists and turns with egregious consequences for their victims, save for the latter day Jewish factor in their manipulating and controlling successive presidents and their administrations.
Maybe it was not so much the content of what Charlie Kirk said as it was his willingness to give young liberals (and conservatives) an opportunity to air their point of view and be heard.
Yes, Kirk’s position evolved over time—that’s to be expected. For what’s it worth (nothing) I don’t agree with a good portion of what he said. But I can still respect him for standing up and letting people put their best case forward.
Honestly, I was pleasantly surprise by how intelligent many of the students were who argued with Charlie. They presented their cases well and didn’t get flustered. They were civil. I’m talking about the “liberals” here with whom he argued. Maybe I should be embarrassed to say this, but for the first time in a long time I felt encouraged about the future of this country. If our nation is in the hands of the reasonable people I saw—on both the right and the left—in the videos, then we’re going to be okay.
Of course, if our future is in the hands of whoever cut Charlie’s life short and thereby terminated open debate, then we’re in for a rough ride. Many of the videos which show the worst behavior on the part of the far-left who rejoiced in his murder, feature freaks who have issues with “body positivity”. They pierce themselves in ways that impose obvious handicaps on their lifestyles, tattoo themselves grotesquely, are either anorexic or morbidly obese and drench their endocrine system with body and mind altering chemicals. In other words, they hate who they are as what they are as designed by Nature to such an extent that they will do anything to change that. Unfortunately for them, what the human mind conjures up is generally inferior to what Nature creates.
Charlie Kirk, the troublesome priest
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Amazing.
In this very venue, replete with so many self-avowed opponents of Israel, I’ve witnessed considerable skepticism of this view.
Go figure.
Mass formation Kirkitis and a suspect with a shape-shifting MO.
It doesn’t get much better than this.
that was my impression as well. The limping seen later may be due to that event – I have not geo-located that info yet. There is a screen shot from ZHedge from a smart phone 30ft in front of Charlie showing a likely chest impression from a bullet strike, possibly a fragment struck his neck. The damage seems a bit light for a 30.06 at 150 yds, otherwise. (I’m not qualified to assess that FWIW).
Two points: If the trump inner circle suspect it was a ((foreign power)) then this is very serious… they will interpret this as a not at all thinly veiled threat against potus. (little will be said publicly of course.)
I’m not sure how much the role of said ((foreign power)) in the JFK hit is understood in trump’s inner circle. They do have full access to the still unclassified bits. But what of all the ((inner circle)) staff appointments that surround trump? This is serious! That man values LOYALTY…. he’s from NYC. He Knows who he’s playing with.
The second point is quite dire: if 100’s of thousands are thinking that Charlie’s hit was due to a ((foreign power)) then it wont be long before they start connecting the dots on JFK – …. leading to a metaphorical Fecal Cat 5 hurricane feedback loop of cascading consequences..
Bibi’s lack of proportion is blowing up the entire edifice of J-street influence. Charlie shoul’dve died of a stroke, or something anodyne. This was sloppy.
Fascinating, thank-you.
At the end of the day, none of that actually matters.
If they’ll kill the visible public mouthpiece of the establishment, they’ll kill you and I with even less consideration.
But people like you, and Fuentes, and Anglin, and Rand Paul;
You’re always so quick to come chop at the base of the conservative movement as a whole, which is why the Left beats us time and time again.
People like you thrive as “the opposition” you have to be, because it’s how you pay your bills. Being on the winning side is anathema to you.
The ONLY thing that matters is that Charlie Kirk was a conservative. They don’t care if you’re a center-right establishment hack, or an an actual honest to God “nazi.”
To them we’re all the same, we are not human to them, and if we don’t unite on issues like the left does, they’ll keep debanking, canceling and KILLING us.
Think about that next time you rush to tear down a conservative because he was a different type of conservative, you hack.
Lance Twiggs needs to suffer a horrific fate, one that will forever be etched into the minds of every wannabe trans-terrorist. Tyler Robinson may be unreachable at the moment, but Lance will eventually go home…
-Rooster
It is good sense for Mrs. Owens Farmer to dedicate bandwidth to French incest-transvesticism and fake space.
I had not realized until the aftermath of this murder that she and Kirk effectively co-founded TPUSA, spending 2 years on the road together.
The course of events becomes much clearer.
He seems to have been killed by the bullet ricocheting off his discrete body armour, not by a direct hit.
Without that breast plate he would have been hit more or less exactly in the heart.
In Norway the MSM simply cannot cover this murder without stressing the various views the victim held that made him a right-wing extremist in their eyes, most notably on abortion and guns.
Some of them also dares to call him a racist and a homophobe, as I remember the «groyper wars» where he travelled around with some gay black veteran on stage and defended his place in the conservative movement my disdain grows by the hour.
My impression is that in many ways Charlie Kirk was a right-leaning centrist.
@Ron Unz
You actually believe that was not a faked event?
I suggest you review the related video content a lot more closely. All the signs of a manufactured murder are there. See also the video of his wife at the coffin (with the wax dummy). Who films themselves doing that?
You can’t possibly be so gullible. Others, yes.
Charlie Kirk’s assassination was FAKE and STAGED.
No bullet entry causes such a big gush of blood to spew out like that. It was makeup F/X with blood squib.
Question to gun experts: can you remove the barrel of this rifle while the spent cartridge remains in the chamber? Can you remove the barrel without removing the scope?
Have you considered that Ben Shapiro’s eagerness to take over the movement might itself be indicative of Israeli guilt? A normal person would think that running TPUSA might be personally risky. Shapiro evidently has no such qualms. I’m sure people like Tucker Carlson Candice Owens Nick Fuentes and so on are going to take extra precautions about their personal safety, not rushing into the fray to make themselves easy targets. Sherlock Holmes might call this the case of the dog that barked too quickly!
Trump will never release the TRUTH on Epstein! Epstein collected who, what, when, where and with whom photos/videos on world elites for the Israeli Mossad to be used as blackmail if those elites didn’t “play ball” with the Mossad and support Israel! If Trump or anyone else releases the truth…the blackmail photos/videos become useless, and the “releaser” will join JFK and RFK…and Kirk!
I guess it’s irony. Bizarre irony for sure. We are told that Kirk was shot by a homosexual (?) whose ‘partner’ was a tranny. Maybe he wasn’t homosexual. Maybe he just liked guys pretending to be women, who are mutilating themselves. I don’t even know what you would call that, but I’m sure there’s a letter in the LGBTQx alphabet for it.
Bibi? There’s an old saying. Guilty dog barks first. Whether he had anything to do with the killing, I don’t know. However the fact that he felt he had to get out in front of it is telling. Here’s a man who doesn’t give a shit about much of anything from a PR standpoint, but he was on top of the Kirk thing before anyone even asked.
What is par are politicians lining up to limit what remains of political freedom in the US. And of course the faux tears and shocked outrage. Forgetting I suppose how the US and its greatest ally use political assassination routinely in order to send their message of good will, within the rules based order. Yet a citizen (if it was actually him) follows political precedent, and folks get bent out of shape. What’s the jest?
It will be interesting to follow on what happens now, with the Turning Point. Back in ’69, Mayall followed it up with his Jazz-Blues Fusion group… wait a minute, wrong Turning Point. My guess is some kind of (possibly ugly) power play. There’s too much money and potential political power for it not to be. Don’t know the organizational structure, but if wife now has control, look out.
While the marksman type assassination is MLK or JFK, Kirk was much more a kind of John Lennon. A pop cultural phenomenon or in kirk’s case a Sub-popular cultural figure. Yet he wrote no songs, published no poetry and I can’t think of any pithy quotes. I didn’t realize how utterly banal he had been during much of his career. So boringly predictable in every position he took. He must have bored the Cambridge Union to death.
Western central banks and media are Zionist owned, and Western governments are bought and paid for by the Zionists! The “peace” president, Trump, is Bibi’s number one cheerleader and will do exactly what he is told! If Trump doesn’t…he goes the way of JFK and RFK! Yes, look for false flags and soon…like 9/11, also committed by the Zionists in order to get the West onboard with direct involvement in a war against Iran! This is all about remaking Greater Israel and profit for the military industrial complex wholly owned by Zionists, both Jewish and Christian!! Is the assassination of Charlie Kirk the first false flag to get the US (Trump) “all in” for Israel? The Mossad killed Kirk, and his death is a warning to Trump! The killer is already back in Israel or is waiting to see if Trump gets the hint! Expect more false flags until Israel gets its way…as it always does!!
Unfortunately the security company that was hired to supply the bodyguards has Israeli connections. Examine the videos of the last 10 seconds before the shot and you can see the bodyguards flashing hand signs to the sniper and positioning themselves for the shot.
This would be why the rooftop was not secured. Which is otherwise inexplicable
Also, examine closely the reaction of the bodyguards to the shot. The one behind Kirk and to the right has no reaction at all. He doesn’t show any surprise or even look at Charlie. He simply and calmly moves back two steps.
The security detail choreographed it. The sniper got away clean, thanks in part to a Jew named Zinn, who provided a crucial distraction while the sniper was escaping, and also thanks to a wealthy Chabad donor, who provided the plane to enable the escape of the sniper from Utah, presumably his journey ending back home in Tel Aviv.
A book about the September 10 assassination appeared on Amazon on September 9. So, no need to be overly cautious on this one. The Zog narrative is obviously wrong.
Excellent piece, Ron, and thanks for highlighting Michael Tracy’s article, which I hadn’t seen.
So you’re game for Palantir and gun-control over this?
Israel regarding this killing is a stretch at best. I am going with a straight anti trannie killing.
I, too, have been flabbergasted at the outpouring of emotion–positive and negative–over the death a “social influencer.” People I know from the few forums I visit online (very conservative sites) had seldom if ever mentioned him or anything he said or wrote. Then suddenly they’re almost all terribly distraught over his murder.
Of course, the murder of a young father is tragic and sad, and the reaction of many leftists ebullient over his death is disgraceful, but the coverage of the event has been hyperbolic to say the least. “We’ll all remember where we were when we first heard,” “this changes everything,” “people have no idea how much this will change the average American’s views of the toxic left,” “this is the first shot of the coming civil war,”; all these rhetorical flourishes have been invoked over this murder.
Anglin’s view might have been mean, but it struck me as more honest. ‘Is everyone else’s reaction merely performative?’ I wondered, or were they actually that upset over someone who had had no influence over them prior to his death? Sure there are larger issues at stake such as the evident deterioration of a society where such tragedies seem to happen daily, but by the same token, if they happen daily, why are they so shocked at this one?
It all continues to mystify me.
Re: Netanyahu denial
I subscribe to the maxim attributed to Otto von Bismarck who said: Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.
Did Antifa pull the trigger, or did Mossad?
Either way, the ADL murdered Charlie Kirk.
I would not call it sharp criticism of Israel. I would call it pusilanimous criticism. As a matter of fact it was reported that Kirk in a call with Netanyahu or some Jewish donor, “demanded” that he be “allowed” to “ask questions” about Israel. One of the most egregious questions he asked was whether there was a “stand down” order from Netanyahu on October 7. That did it, I think.
Let me take the other side of this argument. Turning Point has been reported that it is the No. 1 right wing Influencer in the United States. They reported that he was “bigger” than Tucker Carlson. Jewish publications have called Turning Point the No. 1 Pro Israeli Influencer. The target audience were young college age students (which may be why I never paid attention to him). That was also the target of the “charitable work” of The Mega Group, a group of Jewish billionaires. A major receipent and target for the “charity” of the Mega Group (a groupfor Jeffrey Epstein was the strongman who was assigned to collect large sums from its Jewish members to turn over to Israel) were college age students. It was very important to Israel and the Mega Group for young people to be attracted to Zionism and Israel. How else can you fill up the new State of Israel, should it expand to run from the Nile to the Euphrates. Without the young, Israel’s population would grow stagnant..
Turning Point was reported to have 158 million dollars in its war chest from donors, mostly Jewish donors. I suspect but cannot prove that The Mega Group helped finance The Turning Point either directly or through Israel. I later read that Turning Point had a mere 84 million dollars in its war chest. Kirk had a 5.6 million dollar home. His wife’s jewelry on her hand as she embraced the dead hand of her husband in the casket, something I found highly inappropriate, looked very expensive albeit somewhat garish. In any event, it was very apparent that he, a college dropout, was living very high on the hog. Some of his donors were reported (many are able to be kept secret), and it was apparent that many were Jewish donors. Kirk took a $300,000 salary, plus the various bonuses from his speaking tours at colleges, etc. All his expenses could be justified as expenses of the not for profit corporation, I would think.
Now, if I worked for Mr. Hyman Steinberg, diamond dealer, and he paid me 3/4 of a million dollars per year as his assistant, and bought me a house worth 5.6 million dollars, and gave me bonuses of several hundred thousand dollars per year for being such a good promoter of his business, plus who knows how much more to pay for my day to day expenses, and then one day I decided after I accumulated all this wealth, to go out in front of Mr. Steinberg’s business and criticize him on radio, television, the internet and at open air affairs consisting of 3,000 attendees, do you think he would have the right to be a little angry with me? I do.
I think Turning POint was set up by the neo-cons and maybe in particular, The Mega Group
There is some video which does show what could be a rifle being held by the suspect as he lowers himself down off the roof, although it’s hard to make out.
Do we know if the incompetent security team has been thoroughly questioned, and whether any of these people have any links with “intelligence” agencies, foreign or domestic? After Butler, and given Kirk’s recent fears (if hearsay reports can be trusted), how is it possible that the rooftops were not being covered?
If a radical trans network was discussing this openly beforehand on the internet, are we supposed to believe that this was not monitored by domestic or foreign agencies? But then again, if something was picked up by, say, the FBI, can we even assume that would they have passed this on to Kirk’s security team?
Do intel agencies, foreign or domestic, have a hand in this trans “radicalization”, if that’s what it is? A guest on Bannon recently pointed out that nobody knows who’s doing the influential Reddit moderations, “it could be foreign intel assets for all we know.”
I don’t know if George Webb is to be trusted, but he was suggesting recently that there are Ukraine Azov Brigade connections to the suspect’s family through an “Uncle Mikey”, employed by the DoD.
Since I’d only released my article a few hours ago, I’ve gone ahead and added this additional paragraph:
Also the YouTube video in which Kirk endorsed bringing in fifty million(!!!) new legal immigrants over the next decade has apparently been taken off-line, which is hardly surprising. But I assume that someone will find a copy somewhere and put it back up on Rumble or BitChute. I wonder if Kirk’s 2020 remarks may have been what gave the Biden people and the Democrats the idea…
What can I say? I’d never paid any attention to Kirk, but had heard that after a dozen years of being fervently pro-Israel he’d suddenly become much more critical over the last couple of months. Then he suddenly got shot in a very professional-style political assassination.
That naturally made me a little suspicious so…
As I emphasized, just because all of Kirk’s friends and allies thought Israel had killed him didn’t necessarily mean they were correct. But I do think it’s an interesting factual detail to mention in my article.
That guy, who is supposedly in love with a guy changing to a girl, is the perfect patsy.
The transgender movement is the least popular left-wing movement of all time and is clearly bringing down the Democrat Party, so the evidence from the start was that it was a trans activist. Before anything was really known.
I’m still going with Zelenskyy as the assassination sponsor. He’s the same as Netanyahu anyway.
One last observation. Before they “arrested” the “killer”, a killer they should have found the first day if they released the photos, there were 10,000 internet posts that Israel was involved. Among those who were hinting at this kind of accusation were people like Col. MacGregor, General Flynn, Max Blumenthal, and other important speakers for the right. Even the FBI was suggesting an international culprit. It got so bad that Netanyahu was forced to explicitly deny it.
It was only after these internet posts were made that they “found” the killer. Despite Kash Patel complimenting the work of the FBI for their “investigatory work, I say that if the investigatory team published his picture right away, the team could have all gone to a bar and got drunk for 2 1/2 days, and the father would have nonetheless turned in his son.
I wonder if they would have ever have “found” the “killer” if all these internet posts accusing Israel and important video makers accusing an international culprit did not happen.
The culprit has been arrested, and it appears he has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or the CIA, or any other fairy tale.
He’s simply another worthy representative of the new American generations. The last five mass murders in US schools were all committed by young people between the ages of 16 and 26, two by transgender people. The same goes for the latest terrorist attacks (Trump, the CEO of United Health, and Kirk).
It’s a generation raised by the internet and cell phones, social media, violent antifa, black lives matter and pro-LGBT propaganda, ultraviolent video games, and porn overdoses from early adolescence. A good half (85% of Blacks) grows up without a live-in father.
I live in Italy, and some signs of the same problem are already visible among the Italian young generations. There is a radical increase in family massacres and parental murders by teenage or very young children.
The so-called “delay” in many mass behaviors between the US and Europe is about a decade, so I frankly expect the worse here in Europe as well.
Unfortunately, the cultural pressure exerted by the ideologies promoted by contemporary media society is far more intense than even a healthy, functional family (where it exists) can cope with with its children. Cases of seemingly normal young people turning into strangers for their parents or into monsters of antisocial violence are increasing exponentially.
It, however, might be better not to worship martyrs (the political ones that is, the spiritual martyrs were, at least, acting as God wanted them to act) but recognize human beings as flawed and not follow any particular ambitious politico but rather use part of their platforms as we see fit and as the time we live in dictates.
The problem with political martyrs is that they are build up into a cult in which followers sheeplike are meant to obey the whims of the politicians which formed the cult in the first place.
Just look at the cult of the MLK Christ figure-his death/martyrdom was used to stifle dissent and formulate America into a specific negative direction which some leading elite members wanted but the vast majority of society were skeptical of. It would have been better for both liberals and conservative to accept MLK as a well-meaning but flawed politician. Alas it was not to be, liberals were too far gone and conservatives trusted William Buckley Jr too much (protest a bit then just give in to what the rich elites want anyways)
Part of the reason we all congregate and exchange views on the Unz review is that we are societal contrarians- sacrificed martyrs (be they; MLK, the Holocaust tm, Ukraine, Stephen Lawrence etc.) don’t really hold sway over our evaluation of history and current events.
Just look at the Unz commentariat views of Donald J Trump- the vast majority were supporters but just reading comments about him recently our past support doesn’t mean total support forever for all his policies (although the Donald deludedly believes his followers will always follow him anywhere and everywhere thus he is secure).
Advocating a martyr cult around some somewhat politically confused, slightly corrupt out to get financing young guy doesn’t fit our personality profile and reality at all. After all it has just been several days and nobody can say with certainty what Kirk’s actual position on Israel was (Monty Python would have a field day with this “The Life of Charlie”)- although ambitious politico would certainly view a Charlie Kirk cult as useful way to exploit the cult’s members in order to enhance their careers.
No, to repeat myself, it is better not to create and worship martyrs and their cults (again at least the political ones, leave the Christian ones alone).
The actor playing Charlie Kirk is very much alive. They have messed up. The blood squib under his T shirt is visible in film shot from his left when he leaned forward.
As with most major political events, we the audience don’t know squat and probably will never know much. We don’t even “know” whether Kirk died, as some have pointed out, given the tremendous talents of the directors and producers of the narrative. We will see what happens but I suspect that as with most such events nothing much will change for the audience members. We can ask qui bono but that doesn’t seem too clear to me, expect to say the “right”, whatever that means.
Here you go
Video Link
All lies will fall on its own weight. 911 lies has taken a bit longer.
There is a lie. Then there is a BIG LIE. Then there is 911.
Jesus died for your lies ia even BIGGER lie than the Santa Claus.
Question to ask is which side are you on.
Do not let the Devil tempt you to sell your soul in exchange for worldly gains.
Qur’an Chapter 103
In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
1. By Time.
2. The human being is in loss.
3. Except those who believe, and do good works, and encourage truth, and recommend patience.
https://www.clearquran.com/103.html
There’s a report floating around, supposedly from the NYPost he was being visited by odd people from out of state in the days leading up to this. These sorts of stories are so common after something like this so you have be cautious. Needs more info and context. It could be fake news, or aftershock hysteria.
Thought the weapon was tucked down his clothes/pants and hence the limp.
Transexualism is another Jewish identity movement, with a handful of wealthy Jew trans lobbyists, designed to ensnare a cohort of confused and malleable young types. The more you can expand diversity, the more unpleasant, divisive and unsettling it is, the more you can move the abnormal to being openly tolerated, and then protected, the better for Jews.
Robinson may have still done something like this at some point for other reasons, but loosely, if this was as depicted, one could say Jews created the setting and the ignition points for this anyway.
And another thing. What does it mean to say the “sayings” were engraved on the bullet shell casings?
An engraving tool is a burin, i.e. a sharp, vee shaped gouge used to cut lines in metal plates used in printmaking. I doubt this is what is intended as it takes an expert to use one at the scale required to write messages on a bullet casing.
Perhaps a electric vibrating scribe tool used to write on hard surfaces, but this seems awkward as well.
Or do they simply mean “scratched” with, maybe, the tip of an awl or icepick?
But not written? As with a pencil-style, pointed-tip magic marker?
It matters because any of the “engraved” variety would have been intended to have borne their message in spite of rough handling and this just seems a little too planned too thoroughly in advance. Really? Someone sat around doing this?
Or did someone go to such measures to guarantee that the messages would be found after the event and that they would point the finger in just the right direction?
Why would an assassin, who, presumably, wanted to get away scot free after the shots were fired, leave any clue, any trace whatsoever of what his motives were? If he truly wanted to disappear then why leave some evidence of his political persuasion?
Ah, doing so makes it appear as though he is so driven by ideological hatred that he is compulsive and can’t stop himself from doing what he is doing even if doing so is not really in his self interest. He is rabid. And needs to be shot like a dog. Where’s Atticus Finch when we need him? Even sweet, lil’old Scout was impressed by her daddies fine shooting. That Campus Security Guard deserves our unstinting praise.
Was that how the narrative was to be constructed?
Since only one shot was required, there was no need to cycle another round. It may be that no shell casings were found on the roof or maybe one. Anyone know? If none were ejected then why go to all the trouble of engraving messages on shell casings that could only be read if the rifle were found intact and the contents examined? Again, presumably, he would run away with the messages, so what was the point? No-one would ever read them. Unless someone intended for the rifle to be found. In other words, it was planted.
Or maybe he thought it would take a bunch of shots and he would spray spent casings all over the roof and he never expected to survive and was bound to go down in a hail of bullets or die from the proverbial self-inflicted gun shot wound to the head using the pistol he carried in his fanny pack? That’s what we are expected to believe. That’s what appears under this rubric in the stylebook. The story writes itself it has been used so many times.
Let’s face it. A lone assassin would take at most, two shots. If he missed with the first, the target would move, take cover, and the shooter would be lucky to have a second chance. So what’s the point of writing messages on a bunch of unfired cartridges? It makes no sense.
The very first thing announced to the public regarding the motive was the information that the rifle ammo had “transgender and antifascist ideology” engraved on it. Then in that AI Trump video, fake Trump blamed “the radical left” and “radical left political violence” before anything about the assassin was known. How did fake AI Trump know it wasn’t Israel behind it? Or Ukraine?
Just saying “It’s was a tranny” makes all questions about the shooter magical go away. “It was a tranny” instantly explains everything to the right wing audience. A perfect patsy story indeed.
Most disheartening comment on the board.
What would be “Friggin awesome” would be if whole congregations of evangelicals picked up any book except the bible.
There are other sources of wisdom and spiritual enlightenment you know; sources that do NOT urge its devotees to kill kill kill.
Perhaps Kirk was none of things people ascribe him to be. Maybe he was a man who hid his true feelings about what had happened to this great country he was born in and didn’t like what Jews had done to it over the last seventy years but he couldn’t express it for financial considerations, just like any Tom, Dick and Harry who worries about his family’s well-being. But if one paid a careful attention to what he was saying, there’re kernels of hidden truth in it. Regardless of what happens next to his legacy, his untimely death will be a big bonanza to the Republicans come midterm elections and even beyond. And if I were a betting man, I would say that they’ll milk it for its worth and perhaps having secured the power for the next decade or so, they’ll bring about changes that Charlie would have like to seen implemented. RIP
Very interesting details about the shooting I had not heard before.
Some of it seems hard to believe, but Galloway is usually very careful with his talks.
Kirk was a mainstream MAGA conservative. What he was doing was attacking the Jew controlled university academic establishment on their own campuses and winning over many college students who have been brainwashed into the Neo-Marxist views since grade school. Vilifying him for some of his beliefs we disagree with is pure idiocy. Speaking of Israel, Kirk was starting to question his programmed beliefs about Israel and someday could have found the right path to lead him out of Zionism. The enemy is not Charlie Kirk, but instead the Jew run institutions he was confronting.
Say what you will about this Kirk event. The truth is that the Iryna slaying had to be bumped out of the headlines, they needed something sensational to do it. Here it is.
If the Utah police and FBI allow some sleazy Jew to invade where Kirk’s killer is being housed ala Dallas and Kennedy, then I will accept conspiracy.
I had had the same opinion, but then I started seeing cracks in his Zionist front. Who hasn’t had views from his earlier days that he has not rejected later? I certainly ditched my libertarian views from my 20s and early 30s.
There is a good bit of smoke here with his questioning of Israel shortly before his assassination.
Very well-reasoned point, GG. Perspective – you don’t get enough of that in these threads.
I think the intense coverage of the Kirk murder is media’s ‘band wagon’ effect. Anyone and everyone with an audience to grow, simply has to offer up their opinion on each and every news event or popular trend in order to stay relevant, or so they imagine.
A form of symbiosis or parasitism or vampirism depending on your POV. Akin to don’t let a good crisis go to waste.
Of course, truly invested parties should jump on this band wagon.
LOL. Is there a single example of the Ukrainians trying to kill anyone in America? Offhand, I also can’t think of a single case in which they’d tried to kill anyone in the EU.
They mostly seem to serve as convenient scapegoats for gullible conspiracy-people. For example, I’m extremely skeptical that the Nord Stream pipelines were actually destroyed by a handful of shadowy Ukrainian activists on a rented sailboat.
Hello Mr. Unz, I put together a short article concerning my thoughts about Kirk’s assassination. The main thing to understand is what Colonel MacGregor pointed out; they aren’t telling us any of the facts, this might just as well be an inside job. What people should beware of is the propaganda that follows a public incident. The fact that a murder has been politicized should raise a red flag in people’s minds.
https://blupi.substack.com/p/dont-blame-the-left-for-kirks-assassination
I find the value system of martyrdom itself ridiculous.
Especially within religious cultures.
Has that idiot Krick ever accomplished anything substantial in the real world?
All he does is debate and make money, merely providing emotional gratification for Americans. So, essentially, he’s just a clown on the stage.
From our Chinese perspective, Jesus himself is a clown.
His death didn’t change the fate of the lower classes being oppressed by the Roman Empire. If one truly feels that fate is unjust, then they should slaughter the entire upper echelon of the Roman Empire until rivers of blood flow. Only such a person can be called a hero by us.
Here in our place, if you do something, there will be people to commemorate you, rather than just shouting slogans there.
No matter how loud the slogans are, it’s still more convenient to simply point a submachine gun at the meeting room where the Fed’s board members are having their meeting and start shooting.
Yes, the messages were probably just scratched on, Three Cranes. You figure, no, you’re not going to be able to take 4 shots with a bolt action, but the point is to leave those messages – they will be found.
I think you’re missing the motivation here (IF it were just the one lone guy – not saying either way here). First, if he had done this deed with nobody knowing why, he’d have accomplished part of his purpose – getting Charlie Kirk to stop talking about the Tranny stupidity, because he’s now dead. However, others would continue to speak out, and nobody would know the “why” of it all, which would, in the assassin’s mind at least, discourage any more of this anti-Tranny-stupidity talk.
Secondly, as big a deal it was for America and, to an extent, the World, that Charlie Kirk has been murdered, not many guys would have the complete humility to not want to at least have people know what kind of person did this. For example, friends might not be sure, but they’d think “Wow, he really went and did it.” Yes, it’s not helpful for “Ops Sec”, but I’m not sure I could imagine myself or anyone doing such a thing (not to Charlie Kirk to begin with) without at least leaving some kind of message.
“ the Iryna slaying”
Another event that did not happen.
Yeah, because there’s no way a tweet can get a quarter way around the world and then another one get back in less than half an hour. The ether would have to be really, really thick that day.
C’mon, man. 24 years ago, it was a somewhat different story with communications.
I actually agree with this view.
The liberals don’t care about the details, a guy the media told them to dislike is killed, and they celebrate, that’s that.
And the “right”/nationalist/redpilled or whatever, is immediately jumped into the blame game, conspiracy, or pretending to be smarter-than-thou.
I say the Xitter people who actually do the work and make the people who celebrate Kirk’s death lose their job is 100% more meaningful and useful than the aforementioned “smart” boomers.
And yes, I know Israel did it with their tranny patsy. But it actually doesn’t matter if Israel did it because the conspiracy itself gives Israel the perfect cloud to hide.
Reportedly all the information the father had was that a guy in a photo looking like his son was a “person of interest”. Since Robinson didn’t confess to the police, it’s not clear that he confessed to anyone else including his father. People do turn themselves in when they the police are after them, because otherwise they are fugitives. That does not mean they are guilty. Robinson’s grandmother has been a staunch denier of his guilt. She says he never owned a gun and, to her knowledge, didn’t have any practice with one.
This article ended so abruptly I thought I was reading a Steve Sailer piece.
“For example, I’m extremely skeptical that the Nord Stream pipelines were actually destroyed by a handful of shadowy Ukrainian activists on a rented sailboat”.
You can be as skeptical as much as you want, but the members of the Ukrainian commando and Polish supporters have been identified. The scandal here is the silence of the German justice, of the German Government and of Western mass media.
“Several pastors compared Kirk to the biblical figure Stephen, who was stoned to death and is regarded as the first Christian martyr of the New Testament.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/us/conservative-evangelical-leaders-charlie-kirk
Mark Dankof: “Stephen was stoned by apostate Jews. Kirk was working for them.
“Did he outlive his usefulness?”
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/what-charlie-kirk-said-about-iran-israel-islam-and-jeffrey-epstein
Matt Robinson lived with another man in a sexual relationship. His lover, Lance Twiggs, is a man who is trans – desires to be a woman (which is a biologic impossibility ) and a “furry”, as well as an avid gamer.
There are other sources of wisdom and spiritual enlightenment you know; sources that do NOT urge its devotees to kill kill kill.
You forget… Kill, Hate, Revenge was in ancient beginnings… Old Mosaic Law.
That’s why The End is so great. Jesus freed us from all that when he said :
“Do not Judge, Lest Ye be Judged.”
“If someone slaps you, Turn the other cheek.”
“He who is without sin, cast the first stone.”
JESUS is the ending of the Law of the Jungle… Kill or be Killed,
And the ending of old Mosaic Law of vengeance, “Eye for an eye, Tooth for a tooth.”
He showed us there is another way… A BETTER way.
LOVE. Find love for your fellow man, Turn away from the darkness and Hate.
Call out and heap scorn on the Pharisees, (or Zionists for UNZ readers) as a nest of Vipers and urge them to repent.
The very BEST thing anti-Zionists can do right now is to give up hating the Zionists and start making funny jokes about them that point out their evil, so that people will LAUGH at them.
Make up clever and funny songs about the silly fools who think they can rule the world.
Hate cannot cure Hate. It just causes it to breed and grow.
Love and Laughter are the ultimate cure for Darkness and Hate.
I’d assume that as well. He can see that Nick Fuentes is resonating with the audience– so he and Tucker weren’t “red pilled” at all – they’re just moving along to the new fishing ground.
There is very little doubt in my mind that justice is more just in China than the West. In particular, executing extreme criminal behavior and betrayal by pubic officials goes down well with me. Chinese, by and large, know where they stand with the law. The Plea Deal is a scourge that mocks justice. Revenge has nothing wrong with it, intrinsically. Christianity’s inanity disparages the concept. I sympathize and identify with the Buddhist concept of redemption through restitution, but not for taking a life. It is interesting that most if not all Asian nations have the death penalty for murder, drug possession and dealing, and other serious crimes.
The Laws of Nature are clear: if you want less of something [crime[s]], then keep increasing the punishments until the curve bends downward.
You sound like a old geezer, stop blaming video games, porn, and all the other stuff for why people turn out the way they do. I grew up on all that stuff, and I never took a single human life not even in self defense. If porn and violent media was the problem explain to me why Japan don’t have any of these same issues? There are far less people getting murdered in Japan than anywhere else in the world. And people don’t even play video games as much in places like Brazil to be “influenced” by any of it, yet they have crime over there that’s through the roof that even make Kingston of Jamaica seem like paradise.
Here’s what I want to know: When we see the suspect jumping off the roof in the surveillance video, where is the gun?
I mean, Kirk was shot at 12:23 pm they say, and the video shows the suspect jumping off the roof at 12:23 pm. Are we to believe he disassembled the rifle in less than a minute and put it in his backpack before skillfully scaling down the edge of the building before jumping down about 14′ to the ground?
I heard someone say that a barrel on a gun like that would be too long to fit in the backpack.
And about that jump–maybe I’m wrong, but Tyler Robinson looks like he’s too weak to handle a jump like that.
And then what, he goes to woods and reassembled the rifle and leave it there wrapped in a towel? We’ll, I read the used casing was still inside the rifle, so I now I have to ask, is it possible to disassemble the rifle and leave the used casing inside of it? I don’t know, I’m just asking. And where was the towell? The photo shows a rifle in a box, and now some people are saying it’s not even a Mauser.
But for me, the big question right now is in that surveillance video where the suspect is shown running across the roof and jumping down–where is the gun? Where is the gun?
Also, notice the video does not show the suspect preparing to take his shot.
Fabulous. Governments never lie, deflect or omit necessary information to the public.
“Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself.” Robert Green Ingersoll
Sep 12, 2025 Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s Widow, Delivers Public Address, Says His Movement Will Go On
Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s widow, delivers a public address following the assassination of her husband, pledging that his movement will continue.
Sep 13. 2025 Feds EXPOSE Charlie Kirk Assassin’s Creed’s TRANS Accomplice
Tyler Robinson, suspected of assassinating Charlie Kirk, lived with transgender partner Lance Twiggs, whose texts helped the FBI confirm his guilt. His leftist ideology, evident in a family dinner rant and bullet engravings like “Bella Ciao,” contrasts with his Republican upbringing, fueling speculation about an ominous X post by user Omar.
Cmon, stop. Tucker is a literral fed CIA glowie, and Kike was the same. As if you just get prime time jew-tv as a loser nobody at 18 just because you are eloquent and say the same shit everyone inside the jew box says. As if there aren’t millions vying for the same position and willing to suck jew dick for it.
As if you can trust anything these people say.
As if the whole world doesn’t already know what judea is capable of, and AS IF the public reaction to such an event wouldn’t be a furious condemnation of judea, with every other moron assuming them to be behind the trigger. As if no one knew this before ordering the hit.
Clearly, given this reaction (well actually even without it, just by looking at ratmerica) one can safely deduce that if the rats wanted it, they could’ve had you all as willing slaves, out in the open, tomorrow (verily, a slave to sin i.e. stupidity is a slave indeed). So why risk it with galvanizing? It is easier to maintain a slave civilization if you allow SOME benign criticism (as has been the case for the past era with many European slave nations), and you can clearly see it as the case today by how prevalent the anti-judea message is in media, because it could just as well have been 100% absent, just as with so many other atrocities the rats commit of which you have no idea and never will.
No, ZOG is not nearly as well coordinated as you’ve been black pilled into believing, because, again, you’d all be born as slaves by now if it were. There are jews that don’t give a fuck about judea (as it is objectively a third world shithole) but want their jewkraine fiefdom with the obligatory blonde concubines instead, and are aware that a Russian influence would vastly increase pogrom rate compared to the current local political landscape.
It is my belief that this subgroup of rats knew exactly what kind of reaction would come of such an event, chose Kike at random (out of a hat random, could’ve been Tucker just the same) and arranged for one of their “defense” contractors to outsource the hit. That’s if he’s even actually dead, but the way I value my time and my sanity won’t permit me getting into that.
They knew that it would be easier to shift some aid back to their ratkraine project during the aftermath, as the “people” have likely already forgotten where said country is on the map.
Funny how throwing up one black pill leads one to taking another.
Ok ok now I promise I will shut up about this, wasted too much time on fruitless pursuits and that’s a face I’m comfortable with removing from my short term memory for ever.
Actually, this raises an interesting issue I hadn’t sufficiently considered.
As I said, I think a case can be made that the Kirk’s killing was the most professional political assassination in modern American history. As far as I can think, there’s never previously been a case of an American public figure successfully assassinated while he was wearing body-armor and surrounded by a security detail, let alone being killed with a single shot.
Now offhand it might seem very strange for such an ultra-professional killing to be blamed on someone like that young Robinson fellow, who according to his grandmother may have never even previously fired a gun. And one would think it was extremely foolish for an intelligence organization or any other professional group to have carried out something so unusual, which would naturally generate lots of suspicion over who was actually responsible.
But I think most of us, even intelligence professionals, live in a world constructed by the media and Hollywood, and might sometimes make careless errors based upon that. For example, I’ve personally seen many dozens of Hollywood films in which exactly that sort of assassination was planned and implemented, often successfully.
So it might seem a very typical and common sort of thing until we step back and suddenly realize that it’s never previously happened in real life.
Major incidents that have never previously happened in real life should be very carefully investigated.
We are wondering what the Mr Kirk assassination will lead to, politically. Purges? Civil war? Shahid Bolsen has a clip on how altho Mr Kirk was very useful to the gov’t as a campaigner-marketer-propagandist for rt-wing US views, he will be even more useful to it in death, i.e., as a martyr.
There have been a few commentaries on Let’s not make him into a saint, his views were actually quite ugly; but lots of people are getting fired in the US empire for saying anything critical of him, and what he really stood for. In terms of the framework of the US empire is going down the drain, this will certainly contribute to that process, it seems to us.
We have often said that when a civilization collapses, it’s not pretty. It is very ugly.
Well, we suspect we are going to see the truth of that in the coming weeks or months. It’s a sad, fake “country”, the US, with very wrong values, sick people, and an anti-human, very empty way of life. Very predictable in the land of hustlers and hucksters.
We can’t help but observing how “America” lurches from one frenzy to the next. We seem to have very little restraint, and certainly very little self-awareness or introspection.
Every movement goes nuts, be it neoliberalism,unfettered capitalism, MeToo-ism, Trumpism, Wokism, Warism, or extreme techno-worship. Arthur Koestler once wrote that the human problem was “devotion,” i.e., fanaticism, and said capitalistic scientists needed to come up with a pill to counteract it. Of course, now we have all kinds of anti-depressants available, not to mention heroin, coke, alcohol, pornography adoration, and so on. We suspect that seeing thru our fanaticism, wh/is to say becoming mature adults, is a long ways off.
“Ron seems jealous of Charlie.”
Thanks for the laugh, mutthead.
Another Major Psyop and False Flag as Charlie Kirk Executed in Broad Daylight On Eve of 9/11
https://www.brighteon.com/5db474ee-1c63-48cb-8ece-2aab450dc32b
Two guys from Magna, Utah attempt to fire bomb a news truck in Salt Lake City covering the Kirk shooting. W.T.F.? Utah men, Adeeb Nasir, 58, and Adil Justice Ahmed Nasir, 31. W.T.F.??
Oh, so they were known by law enforcement?
Ok, sure, I’m buying the whole narrative the FBI is pitching.
Yeah, the safest place for him should be in jail, but that didn’t help Epstein.
FWIW, the kid looks like a smartarse apprentice electrician, which is what he is.
Anyway, unless Truth Vigilante and Mulga Mumblebrain show up claiming it was jews … it was jews.
Wouldn’t he mention that to his dad?
I have to admit, when I saw the corpse’s hand it looked fake as hell, although makeup used in the presentation process could account for that. But if it wasn’t faked, I sure as hell wouldn’t have wanted to be touching that, loved one or not. Very strange video!
Like this whole debacle, every aspect is overwrought, strongly indicating to me at least that this was either a staged event, or at the very least, another well-planned Dark Ops execution for nefarious purposes. I’m leaning toward the latter. Seems to be working very well so far, either way.
That’s not what the official story is.
Tyler Robinson said he would rather kill himself than turn himself in. But he also turned himself in.
After confessing to his father and the pastor, he may or may not have turned himself in after saying he would rather kill himself than turn himself in and now pleas not guilty.
The story doesn’t make much sense anyway, but it would make even less sense if Robinson supposedly didn’t confess to anyone at all or if he believed he is got guilty.
Death penalty and expedited appeals.
The only thing I saw that might possibly suggest the Tyler had any experience with guns is a photo on mainstream article showing him at what appears to be some kind of gun show. But I don’t think that would be enough to say he has any real experience with guns. I think the image they posted may be misleading, so I agree with you. Anyway, here is a link to that article with the photo of him with the machine gun if you are interested: https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-s-shocking-childhood-photo-shows-hims-posing-with-an-m2-browning-50-calibre-machine-gun.amp.html