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Tom Segev vat Shlomo Sand's boek The Invention of the Jewish People samen: 'There never was a Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile also never happened - hence there was no return.'

Naar aanleiding van een bericht in de Volkskrant onder de kop: 'Het Joodse volk is een uitvinding,' een feit dat uitgebreid gedocumenteerd wordt in het boek The Invention of the Jewish People, een bestseller in Israel van de Joods-Israelische hoogleraar Shlomo Sand, schrijft een diep verontwaardigde Rosa van der Wieken op haar weblog De Joodse Lobby:

het venijn zit in het staartje van het verhaal.

Het al of niet bestaan van een Joods volk blijkt niet het echte onderwerp te zijn, maar het recht op terugkeer naar de staat Israel dat daaraan verbonden is.

http://dejoodselobby.web-log.nl/dejoodselobby/2009/11/het-joodse-volk.html

Uit de rest van haar reactie valt op te maken dat ze het boek niet gelezen heeft maar er wel al een oordeel over heeft. Dit schreef de voorstaande Joods-Israelische auteur en historicus Tom Segev over The Invention of the Jewish People:

By Tom Segev


Israel's Declaration of Independence states that the Jewish people arose in the Land of Israel and was exiled from its homeland. Every Israeli schoolchild is taught that this happened during the period of Roman rule, in 70 CE. The nation remained loyal to its land, to which it began to return after two millennia of exile. Wrong, says the historian Shlomo Sand, in one of the most fascinating and challenging books published here in a long time. There never was a Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile also never happened - hence there was no return. Sand rejects most of the stories of national-identity formation in the Bible, including the exodus from Egypt and, most satisfactorily, the horrors of the conquest under Joshua. It's all fiction and myth that served as an excuse for the establishment of the State of Israel, he asserts.

http://stanvanhoucke.blogspot.com/2009/11/yochanan-visser-met-jnf-petje-yochanan.html

Wat zet Shlomo Sand nu eigenlijk uiteen? Welnu

Sand argues that most Jews actually descend from converts, whose native lands were scattered far across the Middle East and Eastern Europa. The formation of a Jewish people and then a Jewish nation out of these disparate groups could only take place under the sway of a new historiography, developing in response to the rise of nationalism throughout Europe. Beneath the biblical backfill of the nineteenth-century historians, and the twentieth-century intellectuals who replaced rabbis are the architects of Jewish identity. The Invention of the Jewish People uncovers a new narrative of Israel's formation, and proposes a bold analysis of nationalism that accounts for the old myths.

Kortom, net als bij elk ander volk, is de geschiedenis van het 'Joodse volk' gebaseerd op mythen, niet op de werkelijkheid. Het is zeer wel mogelijk dat de verre voorouders van Ron en Rosa uit Zuid-Rusland kwamen en Turkstalig waren, mensen die nooit zelfs ook maar een voet in 'het heilige land' hadden gezet. Misschien waren ze Chazaren:

De Chazaren of Khazaren waren een Turkstalig nomadenvolk dat de steppen van Centraal-Azië beheerste, en steppenrijken had aan de noordkant van de Zwarte Zee van de zevende tot de tiende eeuw.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chazaren

In de jaren zeventig van de vorige eeuw baarde de auteur Arthur Koestler opzien met zijn boek ’The thirteenth tribe’ (’De dertiende stam’). Volgens hem stammen de Asjkenazische joden af van de Chazaren, een Turks volk dat duizend jaar geleden een rijk beheerste in de Oekraïne en de Kaukasus. De Chazaren gingen over tot het jodendom, althans de elite.

Felle kritiek was Koestlers deel. Als hij gelijk had dan zouden alle Oost-Europese joden, onder wie bijna de hele Israëlische elite van dat moment, niet afstammen van het bijbelse volk Israël maar van Middeleeuwse Turken. Shlomo Sand gaat zelfs verder. Als er één volk verwant is aan de oude Israëlieten dan zijn dat volgens hem de Palestijnen.

http://stanvanhoucke.blogspot.com/search?q=koestler

Dit publiceerde ik eerder al:

Elke staat is gebaseerd op een mythe. Naar aanleiding van het verschijnen van mijn boek De oneindige oorlog kreeg ik een brief van iemand waarin verwezen werd naar het rijk van de Khazaren, en naar het boek The Thirteenth Tribe van de legendarische Arthur Koestler.

'The Thirteenth Tribe
The Khazar Empire and its Heritage
By Arthur Koestler

This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in A.D. 740 converted to Judaism. Khazaria, a conglomerate of Aryan Turkic tribes, was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Han, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the craddle of Western (Ashkenazim) Jewry...The Khazars' sway extended from the Black sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain.Thereafter the Khazars found themselves in a precarious position between the two major world powers: the Eastern Roman Empire in Byzantium and the triumphant followers of Mohammed. As Arthur Koestler points out, the Khazars were the Third World of their day, and they chose a surprising method of resisting both the Western pressure to become Christian and the Eastern to adopt Islam. Rejecting both, they converted to Judaism.The second part of Mr. Koestler's book deals with the Khazar migration to Polish and Lithuanian territories, caused by the Mongol onslaught, and their impact on the racial composition and social heritage of modern Jewry. He produces a large body of meticulously detailed research in support of a theory that sounds all the more convincing for the restraint with which it is advanced.Mr. Koestler concludes: "The evidence presented in the previous chapters adds up to a strong case in favour of those modern historians - whether Austrian, Israeli or Polish - who, independently from each other, have argued that the bulk of modern Jewry is not of Palestinian, but of Caucasian origin. The mainstream of Jewish migrations did not flow from the Mediterranean across France and Germany to the east and then back again. The stream moved in a consistently westerly direction, from the Caucasus through the Ukraine into Poland and thence into Central Europe. When that unprecedented mass settlement in Poland came into being, there were simply not enough Jews around in the west to account for it, while in the east a whole nation was on the move to new frontiers" ( page 179, page 180)."The Jews of our times fall into two main divisions: Sephardim and Ashkenazim.The Sephardim are descendants of the Jews who since antiquity had lived in Spain (in Hebrew Sepharad) until they were expelled at the end of the fifteenth century and settled in the countries bordering the Mediterranean, the Balkans, and to a lesser extent in Western Europe. They spoke a Spanish-Hebrew dialect, Ladino, and preserved their own traditions and religious rites. In the 1960s, the number of Sephardim was estimated at 500,000.The Ashkenazim, at the same period, numbered about eleven million. Thus, in common parlance, Jew is practically synonymous with Ashkenazi Jew." ( page 181).In Mr. Koestler's own words, "The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated."
The history of the Ashkenazi Jews was widely known and appreciated in the former Soviet Union. Ashkenazi militants traced the area where the Turkic Khazars originated before their migration to Southern Russia to Birobidjan, an Eastern Siberian area as big as Switzerland bordered by the Amur river, by China and Mongolia. Around 1928 they started building settlements with the Soviet government's help and in 1934 the Autonomous Republic (Okrug) of Birobidjan Yevrei came into being with official languages of Yiddish and Russian. It is still there as an Autonomous Republic to this day, offering the only historically legitimate settlement area for Ashkenazi Jews willing to exercise their "right to return"...
Mr. Koestler was an Ashkenazi Jew and took pride in his Khazar ancestry. He was also a very talented and successful writer who published over 25 novels and essays. His most successful book, Darkness at Noon, was translated in thirty-three languages.As expected, The Thirteenth Tribe caused a stir when published in 1976, since it demolishes ancient racial and ethnic dogmas...At the height of the controversy in 1983, the lifeless bodies of Arthur Koestler and his wife were found in their London home.'

Map of the Khazar Empire
The Lord's Prayer in the Khazar language
PART ONE: RISE AND FALL OF THE KHAZARS
I - RISE
II - CONVERSION
III - DECLINE
IV - FALL
PART II - THE HERITAGE
V - EXODUS
VI - WHERE FROM ?
VII - CROSS-CURRENTS
VIII - RACE AND MYTH

APPENDICES
APPENDIX I - A NOTE ON SPELLING
APPENDIX II - A NOTE ON SOURCES
APPENDIX III - THE "KHAZAR CORRESPONDENCE"
APPENDIX IV - SOME IMPLICATIONS - ISRAEL AND THE DIASPORA
REFERENCES
SELECTED BIBLIOGRAPHY
INDEX'

Zie: http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/

Zie ook: http://www.amazon.com/Thirteenth-Tribe-Arthur-Koestler/dp/0394402847/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237115692&sr=8-1

En als het echtpaar Ron en Rosa van der Wieken inderdaad nazaten zijn van Turkstalige bekeerlingen dan vervalt het argument dat ze een absoluut recht hebben op terugkeer naar Israel, omdat dit het grondgebied zou zijn waaruit ze zouden zijn verdreven. Het zijn allemaal zorgvuldig gekoesterde mythen.